Drunk on Ink Q & A with Thrity Umrigar and “The Secrets Between Us”
Read Jaggery Issue 11 Spring 2018
Thrity Umrigar is the author of a memoir, a picture book and eight novels, including The Space Between Us, The Secrets Between Us and Everybody’s Son. Her books have been published in over fifteen countries. She is the recipient of the Nieman Fellowship to Harvard and is a professor of English at Case Western Reserve University.
About The Secrets Between Us
Bhima, the unforgettable main character of Thrity Umrigar’s beloved national bestseller The Space Between Us, returns in this sequel in which the former servant struggles against the circumstances of class and misfortune to forge a new path for herself and her granddaughter in modern India.Poor and illiterate, Bhima had faithfully worked for the Dubash family, an upper-middle-class Parsi household, for more than twenty years. Yet after courageously speaking the truth about a heinous crime perpetrated against her own family, the devoted servant was cruelly fired. The sting of that dismissal was made more painful coming from Sera Dubash, the temperamental employer who had long been Bhima’s only confidante. A woman who has endured despair and loss with stoicism, Bhima must now find some other way to support herself and her granddaughter, Maya. Bhima’s fortunes take an unexpected turn when her path intersects with Parvati, a bitter, taciturn older woman. The two acquaintances soon form a tentative business partnership, selling fruits and vegetables at the local market. As they work together, these two women seemingly bound by fate grow closer, each confessing the truth about their lives and the wounds that haunt them. Discovering her first true friend, Bhima pieces together a new life, and together, the two women learn to stand on their own.
Soniah Kamal: First author/book you read/fell in love with?
Thrity Umrigar: East of Eden by John Steinbeck.
To unwind: chai, coffee, water, wine?
A novel, short story, poem, essay, anything you believe should be mandatory reading?
Beloved by Toni Morrison
Any classic you wished you’d pushed through in your teens?
One Hundred Years of Solitude. I couldn’t understand it as a teenager, so I gave up reading it, back then.
Favorite quote from your book
Or perhaps it is that time doesn’t heal wounds at all, perhaps that is the biggest lie of them all, and instead what happens is that each would penetrates the body deeper and deeper until one day you fine that the sheer geography of your bones, the angle of your hips, the sharpness of your shoulders– as well as the luster of your eyes, the texture of your skin, the openness of your smile, has collapsed under the weight of your grief–
from The Space Between Us
Favorite book to film? And why?
Q&A, which became Slumdog Millionaire. Because it was one of those rare occasions where the film was better than the book.
Favorite Indie Book Store/s?
The one think you wish you’d known about the writing life?
That people like me—female, brown, immigrant–could tell stories and didn’t have to ask someone’s permission in order to do so. And that everyone has a story to tell but most people get distracted by other things in life and so their stories remain untold.
Does writing/publishing/marketing get any easier with each story/novel published?
No. I still love the writing part. But the publishing and marketing doesn’t get any easier because publishers want the new, the young, the undiscovered. And more and more, writers are expected to market their own books on social media etc. so that you’re forever begging the same fifty friends to please buy your book. It’s hard and embarrassing.
Dog, Cat, Or?
Cat. But all animals, really.
Any city with bookstores, sidewalk cafes, and museums that’s on the water.
Favorite book cover?
Love the classic “billboard” jacket from The Great Gatsby.
Any Lit Festival anecdote you want a share? A great meeting with a fan? An epiphany?
Favorite memory is when an Indian reader, who was temporarily in the U.S., came to a book talk and pulled me aside and told me about the time she’d dismissed her maid in India after she caught her stealing a bottle of milk. After she read my novel, The Space Between Us, she said the novel changed her life. She had sought me out specifically to tell me that she’d resolved that when she returned to India, she would provide food and milk for the new maid’s children everyday. That’s the first time I realized the power of words to change hearts.
Recommend a Small Press and/or Literary Journal?
Unbridled Books publishes some great books.
Last impulse book buy and why?
Look At Me by Jennifer Egan because I love Jenny’s work but had never read this particular book.
Soniah Kamal is an award winning essayist and fiction writer. Her novel Unmarriageable: Pride & Prejudice in Pakistan, a parallel retelling of Pride and Prejudice and set in contemporary Pakistan, has received starred reviews from Publishers Weekly and Library Journal. NPR calls it ‘thought provoking and deliciously readable’ and People Magazine says “This inventive retelling of Pride and Prejudice charms.” Unmarriageable is an Amazon Best Books pick, a People Magazine’s Pick, a New York Post Best Book pick, a Library Reads pick and more. Soniah’s debut novel An Isolated Incident was a finalist for the Townsend Award for Fiction, the KLF French Fiction Prize, and is an Amazon Rising Star pick. Soniah’s short story ‘Jelly Beans’ was selected for the Best South Asian Short Stories Anthology 2017. Her TEDx talk is about regrets and redemption. Her work has appeared in The New York Times, The Guardian, Buzzfeed, Catapult, The Normal School, Literary Hub, and has been widely anthologized. She has an MFA in Creative Writing from Georgia State University where she was a Paul Bowles Fellow in Fiction. She currently teaches creative writing at Rhineheart University and reviews books for the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Soniah will be giving a keynote address at the Jane Austen Summer Program Conference (2019) and she is a Jane Austen Literacy Ambassador. She was born in Pakistan, grew up in England and Saudi Arabia, and currently resides in Georgia.
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